What the science really says about vaccines and autism

Vaccines don't cause autism, there are thousands of studies that show vaccines are not related to autism and the science is settled. Nothing to see here we are being told. Is this really true?

WebMD - The research is clear: Vaccines don’t cause autism. More than a dozen studies have tried to find a link. Each one has come up empty.

Mayo Clinic - Vaccines do not cause autism. Despite much controversy on the topic, researchers haven't found a connection between autism and childhood vaccines

Here is what the high priests of vaccinology say summarizing that studies that had been done so far: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2908388/

Twenty epidemiologic studies have shown that neither thimerosal nor MMR vaccine causes autism. These studies have been performed in several countries by many different investigators who have employed a multitude of epidemiologic and statistical methods. The large size of the studied populations has afforded a level of statistical power sufficient to detect even rare associations. These studies, in concert with the biological implausibility that vaccines overwhelm a child’s immune system, have effectively dismissed the notion that vaccines cause autism.

What they are saying is that they have investigated whether or not mercury in vaccines causes autism and whether or not the MMR vaccine causes autism. They have investigated 1 vaccine and 1 ingredient so far. There are over 10 childhood vaccines given in 40+ injections and dozens of ingredients. That means they have never investigated whether or not the current childhood vaccination schedule with over 60 vaccines doses given can increase the risk of developing Autism.

According to them they have not studied it because it would be unethical and would lead to unreliable results.

So what they have done was to compare the health outcomes of vaccinated children to the health outcomes of other vaccinated children.

No studies have compared the incidence of autism in vaccinated, unvaccinated, or alternatively vaccinated children ....These studies would be difficult to perform because of the likely differences among these 3 groups in health care seeking behavior and the ethics of experimentally studying children who have not received vaccines.

So the reason why they think that giving too many vaccines can't cause autism is not because they studied it but because they say it is biologically implausible. They haven't done the studies but they don't believe it could happen because it seems implausible.

Of course if you think vaccines are the greatest gift to mankind and you could give 10000 vaccines in one day you don't believe vaccines could possibly do any harm.

In addition in the MMR and mercury studies there is possible bias and data manipulation so we can't even say mercury in vaccines or the MMR vaccine is safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGwzAfRORw0

http://vaccinepapers.org/healthy-user-bias-why-most-vaccine-safety-studies-are-wrong/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlxdWfTLHH0

So in reality we have never studied whether or not vaccines can cause Autism but the vaccine experts believe they don't so it is a belief based on faith not on science.

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bean-a

1 point · 10 months ago

Daughter was fine, got a shot, got sick. Of course it wasn't the shot.

There are 1000s of reports like this. Lots of kids and adults get sick (in various ways) after they got vaccinated. Your daughter’s natural immune system could have been fighting off a flu when she got vaccinated. This process was interrupted by vaccination.

mascaraforever

2 points · 10 months ago

not if you look at other studies which show a total breakdown of the immune system following vaccines. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5360569/

bean-a

9 points · 10 months ago

Vaccine promoters:

"No studies have compared the incidence of autism in vaccinated, unvaccinated, or alternatively vaccinated children ....These studies would be difficult to perform…" Two obvious lies; such studies have been done, and they are not “difficult to perform”. Amish kids don’t get autism.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/amish-dont-vaccinate-rarely-get-autism-cancer-heart-marin-darmonkow

sigismund1880

4 points · 10 months ago

yes indeed. One of the MMR study authors became a whistleblower and he did not only suggest that they had repeatedly hidden statistical associations but they also have the data to do such a study and if I remember correctly they moved the data so that it could no longer be accessed with a freedom of information act request.

japroct

7 points · 10 months ago

Guess what? I am in my 50s now and cannot recall ANYONE in my area ever having autism in my youth. Strange that now its as common as it is..The common denominator is the amount of vaccines now being mandatory and the ingredients added to them that were not during my youth. Although it would.be tedious, a person could actually research the data to find when autism cases spiked and what vaccines were being mandated. Then those vaccines could be compared to older recipees of vaccines to deduct problems.

bean-a

4 points · 10 months ago

Although it would be tedious, a person could actually research the data to find when autism cases spiked and what vaccines were being mandated.

This has already been done. Autism spiked just as the vaccinations multiplied.

There are many such charts,

Autism prevalence, Vaccine Introduction, and Aluminium Adjuvant in Vaccines http://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/hib-vaccine-graph2.gif

from here,

http://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/vaccine-dangers/

japroct

3 points · 10 months ago

This is what I thought had happened. Haven't we noticed that the prevailence of aluminum derrivitives keeps repeating itself in medical sickness? Ultimately, big pharma always states something along the lines of "used in safe doses" or something thereof. But its not safe.....its the same as flouride and many other chemicals. They are POISIONS and should be completely removed from modern medicine altogether. These "harmless" doses sure have increased the amount of sicknesses in my lifetime. Its like the AMA and big pharma are using us as their lab rats in a huge germ warfare project. Unfortunately, we are the ones that lose.

Seth__Rich

0 points · 10 months ago

It's not like you do a bloodtest to determine autism though, it's a collection of symptoms. Back in the day you just called autistic kids weird, quiet, introverted etc.

sigismund1880

7 points · 10 months ago

many are severely disabled and need a caretaker 24/7. Within the next 10 years it could cost up to $1 trillion a year.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/07/30/autism-costs-may-reach-1-trillion-by-2025-surpassing-diabetes-care-study.html

In the UK autism is already the most costly medical condition.

http://www.lse.ac.uk/website-archive/newsAndMedia/newsArchives/2014/06/Autism.aspx

Cost of autism to the UK economy is £32.1bn per year, compared to cancer (£12bn) heart disease (£8bn) and stroke (£5bn).

We have never seen anything like that before. There is no way that we are dealing just with a few introverted kids and that we could overlook something huge like that.

Garblegarbo

1 point · 10 months ago

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-really-an-autism-epidemic/

mascaraforever

2 points · 10 months ago

this is such crap. I didn't know a SINGLE person my age who had autism.....now disabled children (not quiet or quirky, I'm talking about disabled) are everywhere. Meet a child with severe autism. Spend a little time with said child and then walk around your closest city and observe the children you see. It's gonna scare the shit out of you.

sigismund1880

0 points · 10 months ago · edited 10 months ago

this article is garbage. They say that Asperger's and some diagnostic criteria changes could explain the rise. That's bogus since we have seen a 1000 fold increase since 1930 and Asperger's makes up only a small part of Autism cases.

They rely on a single UK study that would mostly track mild cases and tells us nothing about severe autism.

There are many better studies that show a dramatic increase.

In the UK Autism is now bigger than heart disease and cancer combined (in terms of economic impact) and still growing and the funds and the services are not there and parents are begging for help. We surely didn't notice that problem for the past 30 years. /s

This would be like saying we overlooked something as big as Cancer and Heart disease never talked about it, never noticed that services weren't available, parents never complained about it, never asked for more funding etc.

Not sure how many blue pills one would have to eat to believe that.

Dhaerrow

5 points · 10 months ago

TRIPEDIA: Package Insert and Label Information:

Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.

antikama

7 points · 10 months ago

The current research shows aluminium adjuvants are strongly linked to autism. When you inject a child with a vaccine containing aluminium it gets transported via immune cells called macrophages across the blood brain barrier and it stays there. Once there high levels of the cytokyne interleukin-6 occur and persistent brain inflammation also occurs. This causes brain damage in the children which causes autism.

Check out www.vaccinepapers.org for more information about this subject. Its an absolute goldmine of objective information about vaccines and autism and other issues relating to vaccines.

Also check out https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2018/4/1/international2018

The science is very clearly pointing towards aluminium adjuvants as causing autism and the information is getting clearer and clearer as time passes.

bean-a

2 points · 10 months ago

CDC Dr. Verstraeten et al research group (1999) found causal links of childhood vaccines to brain damage/autism. Both mercury and aluminum adjuvant nuerotoxins were identified as causal factors . This damning data was eventually falsified and manipulated over years for eventual publication in Pediatrics (2003) , which officially found no associations. Obtained by Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA)

Good info!

Cortellas

10 points · 10 months ago

This happened to the Son of a good friend of mine and his wife has even testified before Congress on the issue. It's no longer a "conspiracy theory". Just like the HPV "vaccine" given to girls or the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation putting sterilization agents in "vaccines" shipped overseas. Criminals All.

EarthIsMySandbox

5 points · 10 months ago

Anecdotal evidence is very powerful in my book. If I was faced with the decision of whether to vaccinate or not, I would not only want to research each individual vaccine, but would also give equal weight to both anecdotal experiencial evidence and scientific research. I’m glad I’m no longer at baby making stage of life.

GeoSol

2 points · 10 months ago

I read one study that showed that mercury in a vaccine was low enough, to be safe. But that was assuming that the vaccine would be given in at least 6 separate doses over the course of a year, but in reality, it's hiven in 1 to 3 doses. Thus it actually does cause damage.

This is the same as the study on thesis monkies decades ago, that tried to prove that smoking cannabis causes brain damage. The study was supposed to go on for a year, but the guy running it, didn't want to pay an assistant for the full year, but instead did it in 6 months. Which required them to double the dosage given. In the end, it proved that lack of oxygen causes brain damage.

Same idea, but kinda opposite points.

sigismund1880

5 points · 10 months ago

I am not asking you to believe something but many parents do report that vaccines made their child autistic and they are being told that it is impossible because science says so. Does it really say it is impossible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPHZFQFpZrY

Tsuikaya

8 points · 10 months ago

You cannot sue in america and they have the highest rate of vaccinations, they pump them out because no liability. Other countries have less vaccines and adopted similar programs to the 1986 act. In Canada you can "technically" sue, you will basically never win and they don't have their own compensation act, even if you do sue them the legal battles take years and years, they make it take as long as possible so that you give up or die in the mean time, usually they coerce you into settling out of court. There are people who win these battles, but you've just spent years of your life fighting something you have a low chance of winning since you are likely not an expert and do not have all the information and are expected to go up against this super giant industry that is presumed safe because we haven't done the proper safety studies like saline placebos, vax vs unvax, long-term, or looking for autism at more than 1 vaccine and 1 ingredient.

cravin16

3 points · 10 months ago

Every parent has the same story when the noticeable changes take place. The kid receives vaccinations, that night, the child is irritable, high fever, crying like they're being hurt and everything goes downhill from there. Seizures, banging head on wall, loses everything the kid has learned up to that point, the talking, the walking, the look in the kids eyes like nobody is home and they witness their kid change over a few days. Those are the lucky kids, I guess. The unlucky kids will die. I personally know 3 families who lost children after getting vaxxed. My friend was watching his three month old nephew who received shots earlier in the day, his nephew died in his crib that night. "SIDS" they said. A year and a half ago my daughters friend got the HPV vaccine, she was home with her younger brother that night and he heard her crying in the bathroom, thought nothing of it. Finally went to check on her and she was deceased on the floor. Medical examiner said cause if death was "natural causes" I mean wtf? Seriously? Another family friend had twin girls, also my daughters friends, at their 6 month vaccinations, one of the twins reacted bad from it and was seriously messed up, RIGHT AFTER RIGHT AFTER RIGHT AFTER getting that round and permanently damaged her and she did finally pass away 2 years ago. She suffers a vaccine injury that made her suffer her entire life, it damaged her heart and her brain. Those are just the ones I know personally who died. I know several others affected some way by vaccinations. I know one family who received money from the vaccine courts because it was proven the vaccines she recieved gave her severe autism. BTW the vaccine court has paid out 3 or 4 billion to vaccine injured ppl since 1986 so your argument that vaccines are safe doesn't hold water. The meningitis vaccine almost killed me when I was 2. So it's not just autism that is the focus here. Vaccine are killing kids, babies, causing severe brain damage and many other life long aliments. Read the actual inserts of the side affects. It's beyond calling it possible side affects. Those side affects are happening, everyday. There has never been. Any long term testing on the combined multidose vax schedule they push today and inject into little babies. You really think a newborn can handle the same amount of everything in the MMR shot as well as a grown adult who decides to get another MMR shot? Both receive the exact same shot! That amount of crap wreaks havoc on a newborn or young baby, ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!

The problem with you ppl defending vaccines and say they're safe is you can't bring yourselves to admit you blindly followed the pediatricians orders, you didn't educate before you vaccinate, didn't ask questions. You did absolutely nothing before letting someone inject something into your children. Inside your heart you know there is bad stuff in those shots but staying in denial gets you off the hook for being completely irresponsible and risking your kids health and life by questioning nothing at all. Just believe the pediatrician because he's in a doctor costume. Maybe your kids did get fucked up, just blame something else then. Whatever doesn't make you feel guilty. A cpl of the parents I know who had kids die or became injured choose denial as well. That would be hard to live with when someone could have just asked a few questions.